tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post4782670341362422566..comments2024-03-23T23:13:14.119+05:30Comments on annavetticadgoes2themovies: REVIEW 128: HOUSEFULL 2Anna MM Vetticadhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comBlogger27125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-43871633350534180172012-04-22T22:13:32.976+05:302012-04-22T22:13:32.976+05:30Now whose fault is it that you postponed reading m...Now whose fault is it that you postponed reading my review, Naveen? :) And before I forget, thanks for the support! <br /><br />Regards, AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-82643159348245185232012-04-22T22:03:39.660+05:302012-04-22T22:03:39.660+05:30I want very much to respond to your comment, but I...I want very much to respond to your comment, but I can’t figure out what you mean by this maze of words. More to the point, if you believe that it is your right to post “irresponsible” comments on public platforms, then why am I taking the trouble to give respect to a person who does not respect his own views? <br /><br />Regards, <br /><br />AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-46443853680380473822012-04-22T12:09:28.134+05:302012-04-22T12:09:28.134+05:30Oh god, I wish I had read your review before going...Oh god, I wish I had read your review before going for this. Watched two comedies in two weeks, Housefull 2, which is supposed to be a comedy, and Vicky Donor, which i thought would be a bit serious with all the sperm donation & social messages. I couldn't have been more wrong. This movie is at the height of absurdity! And read all these conversation with the Anonymous. Totally behind your back!Naveenhttp://twitter.com/navzaknoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-29587032125165322112012-04-17T20:18:43.281+05:302012-04-17T20:18:43.281+05:30Saying something is fair game and finding that thi...Saying something is fair game and finding that thing funny and/or promoting it are two different things. For example I am not fond of the NRI stereotype in Hindi films but it is still fair game. You are therefore accurate in your perception that I am highly insensitive if this is your criteria for being highly insensitive. In regards to your statement about demanding a greater sense of responsibility from politicians but not hold themselves to the same standards, I see no problem with that unless the journalist or politician is on a public platform in a personal capacity and not in a professional capacity. A great sense of responsibility should be demanded from these professions. I am an accountant who happens to like movies so there is no consequence if I post something irresponsible. Sure it may irritate you to read it, but being on a public platform irritating comments are a dime a dozen for you. The "when will you realize" is me seeing red when films of this genre are taken so seriously just as you see red when rape is discussed casually. I perceive it as an indirect way of saying the audience isn't smart enough to distinguish that this is only a joke and in actuality it is a serious crime. That article you sent me made my blood boil because the outrage to me is like saying "how dare you treat rape lightly, the general population lacks sense so they may actually start taking actual rape lightly". I would like to believe the average person can distinguish between a joke and the seriousness of a crime. In any case I will try my best not to respond further should you choose to respond because I am getting the feeling you have had about had it with this discussion.<br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />VarunAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-88848672460404373912012-04-17T16:13:49.784+05:302012-04-17T16:13:49.784+05:30Dear “Anonymous” / Varun,
You are right in asses...Dear “Anonymous” / Varun, <br /><br />You are right in assessing my tone. But my condescension is a response to what I perceived as your own condescension ... “when will you understand”, etc. Besides, rape is such a heinous crime that I see red when anyone seems to discuss it casually. <br /><br />One of the things I’ve learnt from being on Twitter though is that there are some people out there who believe they have an absolute right to be condescending / sarcastic, often even rude, to journalists, politicians and others, but are taken aback when they receive a response in a similar tone. Likewise, they demand a great sense of responsibility from journalists etc on public platforms, while themselves demanding the right to be factually incorrect, logically inconsistent and so on in these spaces. And the attitude seems to be that you can critique my comments, but I am not allowed to critique your critique without being dismissed as “uptight”. <br /><br />I do not understand the point you are trying to make about child sexual abuse since you had earlier clearly written that “pedophilia … is fair game” for jokes in this film genre; but now you say you “do not promote jokes on paedophilia” nor would you “find them funny”. If the former is the case, then I find you highly insensitive. If the latter is the case, then I believe you are displaying double standards by defending the right of a film maker to treat the sexual abuse of adult women lightly while balking at a similar attitude towards the sexual abuse of children! <br /><br />I mentioned CARA along with the CBFC only to point out that, contrary to your claim, many societies across the world do deem it necessary for film makers to be socially responsible. I am not equating CARA with CBFC nor is there space here to go into a discussion on the merits and demerits of both systems. But if the US (or the West in general) is your standard in these matters, then: (a) as you yourself have pointed out, the jokes on Michael Jackson that you have cited were directed at MJ, not at paedophilia; and (b) please read this article on jezebel.com about the reaction to an advertisement’s attempt to treat rape lightly - http://tinyurl.com/c73zjs3<br /><br />There is an inexplicable fundamentalism that has entered the debate on freedom of expression in our country in recent years. Anyone who protests is clubbed with those who indulge in violence while protesting. I do believe I have a right to express an opinion against a distasteful joke in a film without being clubbed with the “moral police”. <br /><br />Regards, AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-72509746449124625702012-04-17T01:33:20.534+05:302012-04-17T01:33:20.534+05:30The feeling is mutual given your condiscending ton...The feeling is mutual given your condiscending tone. I would, however, like to clarify that I do not promote jokes on paedophelia nor would I find them funny, but the point I am trying to make is that films of this genre aren't meant to be taken seriously enough to be outraged at such things. Last time I checked there were films in the US that made light of paedophelia via Michael Jackson jokes. Granted Michael jackson was the butt of those jokes but I do not recall their being any moral policing by this agency for making light of such serious accusations. I have not researched the prior statement, just going by what I recall off the top of my head. I'm just the average guy who likes to watch movies so I have no desire to do research or homework for an informal argument online. If this was a formal and organized debate I can see you being uptight about these things. If you feel a sense of victory in me admitting I made a factual error because I got carried away in what I was trying to say then you got it, you win. I had an instant reaction to your review therefore I posted my comments, had I known thorough research and precise phrasing are required to share my reaction I would have exercised better self control and kept my comments to myself. <br /><br />Regards,<br /><br />Varun<br /><br />Had you put up a disclaimer to the effect of "All responses must be thoroughly researched and perfectly articulated. Any comment not meeting the aforementioned criteria will be subject to condiscending responses" this whole argument would have been avoidedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-10839455107221230542012-04-16T22:01:55.535+05:302012-04-16T22:01:55.535+05:30Dear “Anonymous”,
Instead of admitting that you ...Dear “Anonymous”, <br /><br />Instead of admitting that you made a factual error with your statement that “filmmakers are not obligated to be socially responsible or politically correct”, now you want to know the exact role played by CARA ratings? I’m afraid I have no intention of doing your homework for you. <br /><br />As for my response to your comments about rape jokes, clearly I’m not being that “unreasonable”, since it turns out that you do believe “paedophilia … is fair game”. Even the most insensitive people I personally know, draw the line at paedophilia. What can I say to someone who thinks jokes about child sexual abuse would be acceptable in a film of this genre? I guess I’ll just say that I’m glad I don’t know you. <br /><br />Regards, AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-43090527410570105232012-04-15T23:29:07.114+05:302012-04-15T23:29:07.114+05:30Hey Anonymous, or are you actually Sajid Khan writ...Hey Anonymous, or are you actually Sajid Khan writing? It’s interesting that you don’t know who Anna is but you still make the effort to go to her blog, read her review and add to that even comment!! That’s what makes me suspect that you probably are Sajid Khan!! What qualifies you to comment, do you know anything about her work? How does a judge in a court of law give out a verdict? Is it because he has committed a murder/fraud/been involved in a scam or domestic dispute? No, he/she has analysed and evaluated the evidence at hand studied the case and the facts and then made a judgement-he/she however has to give a verdict within the constraints of the law, it is not his opinion! Similarly I’m sure (considering the experience she has – do look at her profile – SINCE YOU DON’T KNOW WHO SHE IS) having read her blog and followed her work, she has enough knowledge about films and film-making to be able to express an opinion. Which is what a critic does, express an opinion. What is Sajid Khan’s claim to fame anyway? That he’s related to some Bollywood stalwarts? Even Wikipedia doesn’t have much to say about him except that he’s a failed TV presenter! And he started out his career criticising and making fun of the same fraternity that he has now become a part of. So, instead of criticising Anna for what she has written and exhausting all your energies on that dear Sajid, I would suggest that you put in more hard work and make quality films…..comedy doesn’t mean crassness and I don’t have to be a film maker to say that!! :P<br />You're right, God SAVE the INDUSTRY from Directors like Sajid Khan!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-70209563098610231042012-04-15T19:42:07.000+05:302012-04-15T19:42:07.000+05:30And the comparisons you are making is the height o...And the comparisons you are making is the height of being unreasonable. The parallels you draw are too extreme to even compare (except the pedophilia one, but in this genre of film even that is fair game, and note this genre of film). There is zero parallel between a film of this genre and rape videos or real rape or other such extreme scenarios you mentioned. And my understanding is these rating agencies you mention at least in the US exist to regulate films in terms of what age group can watch that content. You are the journalist, I will leave it to you to throw facts in my face regarding any R-rated film which was required to edit content because it was socially irresponsible or politically incorrect (this does not include excessive violence or nudity/sexual content). Personally I do not recall such an incident, but I guess you'll have a film or two to throw back at me. In any case I hope you are more reasonable in the parallels you draw in the response to this if you do choose to respond.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-28679631594942357732012-04-14T23:16:42.668+05:302012-04-14T23:16:42.668+05:30Dear Anonymous,
When will you realise that it’s ...Dear Anonymous, <br /><br />When will you realise that it’s the height of insensitivity to say “anything and everything is fair game”? In a civilized society, entertainment value is certainly not the sole determining factor for what’s acceptable in a film. A cursory glance at history and sociology texts will tell you that acts of cruelty always draw audiences – cheering crowds at public hangings are a good example. So going by your argument, why stop at jokes on rape, then? How about the actual act of rape? No doubt there are people in this world who find rape videos highly enjoyable. I wonder if it’s your contention that feature film makers should be allowed to show actual rapes in their films (not actors acting, but men who have been paid to actually rape women) if a sufficiently large section of the audience reacts positively to such scenes. <br /><br />I wonder too if your insensitivity extends only to jokes about crimes against adult women. Or do you think jokes about paedophilia are equally acceptable if found entertaining by sufficiently large sections of the audience? <br /><br />“Filmmakers are not obligated to be socially responsible or politically correct”, you say. Really? I’d request you to get your facts right (and yes, this is a matter of fact, not opinion). Because if this were so, then I’d be curious to know your opinion on why India has a Central Board of Film Certification (CBFC) and why the USA – a far more liberal society in many ways in this respect – has The Classification and Ratings Administration (CARA). You may personally believe that “filmmakers (should not be) obligated to be socially responsible or politically correct”, but to say that they “are not obligated” shows a strange ignorance about the existence of film regulatory authorities. <br /><br />Regards, AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-47453666772108277012012-04-14T20:34:11.608+05:302012-04-14T20:34:11.608+05:30Err...Anonymous, are you by any chance Sajid Khan ...Err...Anonymous, are you by any chance Sajid Khan himself ;) ..... amused!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-66457795902743143642012-04-14T00:49:31.206+05:302012-04-14T00:49:31.206+05:30When will you understand that in this form of cine...When will you understand that in this form of cinema (brainless comedy) anything and everything is fair game. The sole intent is to entertain and evoke laughter by any means necessary. Filmmakers are not obligated to be socially responsible or politically correct nor should they be obligated to such things. Did the sequences you are condemning draw laughter from the majority of the audience in the hall? If they did then who is to say your condemnation outweighs the rest of the audience's enjoyment? If these sequences are drawing laughter there is no reason they should not be part of the film. While it is well within your right to condemn such scenes, it is well within a filmmaker's rights to have such scenes in his/her film to evoke laughter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-70250290878041518702012-04-12T14:37:21.678+05:302012-04-12T14:37:21.678+05:30Umm, she reviews films. Ergo, she talks about what...Umm, she reviews films. Ergo, she talks about what she feels about the film. She has made a career doing that. It's kind of part of her job. And unlike your rambling, incoherent and barely senile response, she gives pretty clear cut reasons for her displeasure. GOD, the level of stupid in your comment is breathtaking!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11016960885274060432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-11361579001204978642012-04-11T11:52:52.900+05:302012-04-11T11:52:52.900+05:30it shd be saving humaity from rapists and tasteles...it shd be saving humaity from rapists and tasteless directors:)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-39270071803077997552012-04-11T03:16:42.507+05:302012-04-11T03:16:42.507+05:30Brilliant review. I suffered through the movie, ha...Brilliant review. I suffered through the movie, had to watch it (its a job I have to do so that I can earn a few by giving my opinion on them), but your review made for a delightful and very meaningful read.Sadhohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09878306210355865937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-64897425716402012612012-04-10T22:12:46.359+05:302012-04-10T22:12:46.359+05:30I just read this review & I could not agree mo...I just read this review & I could not agree more! I saw the movie today & I honestly cannot believe that this much of nonsense could be in a movie. It was offensive, racist & so inappropriate. I wonder if Sajid Khan even saw the final product or he just has so much money that he decides to put it in making movies like this rubbish.Dayle Pereirahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15070082333540081400noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-61108372788782394192012-04-10T10:00:25.102+05:302012-04-10T10:00:25.102+05:30Anna, loved your review.
Reading the review, I c...Anna, loved your review. <br /><br />Reading the review, I could visualize you, sitting down in front of a laptop as soon as you came out of the multiplex and angrily punching out this review muttering "i need to tell the world about Housefull2, I need to ..err..I need to save humanity from extinction.."<br /><br />On a side note: Housefull2 will make its money for Sajid Khan & Co. from the bottom of the pyramid.Nebuchadnezzarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00510117590311902119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-25834578959008424522012-04-10T03:11:51.130+05:302012-04-10T03:11:51.130+05:30ha ha - I see, have to agree (:ha ha - I see, have to agree (:Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-86436692312356409512012-04-10T01:13:09.157+05:302012-04-10T01:13:09.157+05:30Dear San Didi and "Anonymous",
I'v...Dear San Didi and "Anonymous", <br /><br />I've seen worse. Far far worse :( <br /><br />Take a look at this link if you don't believe me.<br /><br />http://annavetticadgoes2themovies.blogspot.in/2011/12/review-106-be-careful.html<br /><br />Regards, AnnaAnna MM Vetticadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08672605004762355462noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-61819036959549980502012-04-08T01:55:14.669+05:302012-04-08T01:55:14.669+05:30why 2 stars then? dont be bashful - give it 0, it ...why 2 stars then? dont be bashful - give it 0, it seems to deserve.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-44658442985363401382012-04-07T18:08:08.332+05:302012-04-07T18:08:08.332+05:30Hindi cinema is still about regular masala movies....Hindi cinema is still about regular masala movies. Though some daring filmmakers are making good movies but director like Sajid Khan still believes in shot cut formula to make money out of this commercial art form.<br />www.rajnishonline.blogspot.comRajnishhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11554181871447936478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-8565340798952808042012-04-07T12:01:41.114+05:302012-04-07T12:01:41.114+05:30Just dropped my idea after reading the reviw to wa...Just dropped my idea after reading the reviw to watch #Housefull-2, Now planning to watch Wrath Of The Titans 3D :) Thanks alot Nice Review.Pankaj Shuklahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11238842023046847918noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-90445682791071960332012-04-07T11:08:18.370+05:302012-04-07T11:08:18.370+05:30tks a lot Anna! was planning to watch it this week...tks a lot Anna! was planning to watch it this weekend. will not bother now ! Rape can never be a source of humour, its a pity these film makers do not understand this.Rwitabhadra Chatterjee Dasgupta (RITZ)https://www.blogger.com/profile/03362526967311464234noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-26334836726336390742012-04-07T10:04:02.443+05:302012-04-07T10:04:02.443+05:30i am refraining from anything beyond this line as ...i am refraining from anything beyond this line as a comment & you do hv hellava lot of patience to dare & bare such content..thanks for saving us...as patrons of ur blog we luckily escaped this seemingly crass production.Aravindan Umashankarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01351294968514808119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3555887833232019435.post-39040536573148996862012-04-07T09:02:50.914+05:302012-04-07T09:02:50.914+05:302 stars out of 5? that sounds excessive! ;)2 stars out of 5? that sounds excessive! ;)san didihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09717170213748534287noreply@blogger.com